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I can always use more people praying for me. Its not like they bend over backwards to exclude men and cant help it if men stay, short of being bodily removed. There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. Heres an example of Priscilla preaching to men and yoking with a false teacher as she preaches the Sunday sermon at Joel Osteens Lakewood Church: Priscilla teaches Christians to listen for Gods voice in an unbiblical form of prayer called contemplative prayer. on Fighting for the Faith, True Woman Conference Speaker Priscilla Shirer Hears Gods Still, Small Voice at Apprising Ministries, Priscilla Shirer and Contemplative/Centering Prayer at Apprising Ministries, He Speaks to Me (April 24, 2008) promo video by Priscilla Shirer, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMattersat Berean Research, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude by Chris Rosebrough, Priscilla Shirer- Mystic by David Sheldon, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017at Emergent Watch, Priscilla Shirerat Fighting for the Faith, Fervent Warning on Priscilla Shirerat Christian Answers for the New Age, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2 at The End Time, War Room: A Review by Justin Peters at Worldview Weekend, Stand Firm: A Review of War Room at Satisfaction Through Christ, Reblogged this on Seth Dunn and commented: She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. Examples: when we (Im also about 90% Reformed if you didnt get a chance to look at my statement of faith page.). Id recommend starting with Rock Your Role FAQs #11, then moving on to Jill in the Pulpit. Or and be .. #4a- Unfortunately, most people do read themselves into Scripture (largely due to being taught that way by false teachers such as the aforementioned and many others), but that doesnt mean its the correct way to study Scripture. on that if youre interested. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. I can tell that just from your comment. But we hope that as your faith increases, our area of influence among you will greatly increase as well, 16 so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. Thanks so much for your comment. Genesis 24:1-4. I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs at the top of this page. (I dont think she was building doctrine in this promotional video, but I could be wrong.). After a bit of research on Ms. Shirer, Im determined that shes one to beware of. I KNOW this is a looooong series of questions about Priscilla Shirer that was stimulated by your post. Mark 7:31-37. Grace&Peace in Christ brother travis & sister tori, Thanks so much, Travis. If youre not familiar with the false teachers cited below, click the Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. What is a defining moment? Free Sermons and Sermon Outlines for Preaching : How To Respond To Newly-Delivered People Who Still Are A Mess. I dont think you read my comment carefully enough. Stay the Path (book) Promo Priscilla endorses Bobbie Houstons book. Heres why: 1. YLT, NASB, ASV, AM, LEB, WEB. Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. Any more credible sources out there? Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. I do not think the bible says anything about women speaking in public as long as their not pastors, and she is not talking to men she is talking to ladies. The problem at the Colossian church (the reason Paul wrote this epistle to them) was that false doctrine was starting to creep in. A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. Yes, there are many more examples of Priscillas poor handling of Scripture in the Additional Resources section. Deuteronomy 6:4 ESV / 4 helpful votes Not Helpful "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. she said what she means by that is, to see biblical womanhood flourish would be a great joy! 3 Tests Of Plagiarism: Do Your Sermons Pass Them. We cannot live without fear. Often, when readers express their disagreement, they do so in a very vicious and attacking way, so I really appreciate it when someone politely expresses herself. I read myself into scripture, too! You could choose to simply pick up your Bible and study it. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. Have been vetting her this was very helpful! Thats a rare find these days. 5:7 ). I and my attendants will fast as you do. Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) Even if shes twisted. Should she repent in these areas in which she has broken Scripture and align herself with biblical principles, she would have no bigger fan than I, and I would rejoice to be able to point Christian women to her as a doctrinally sound resource. http://lisaharper.net/calendarevents/. #4b- this is supposition on your part. Yes, thats correct. Silly me! Like you, I also dont understand why believers behave the way they do- taking to task those who stand firmly upon the truth of Gods word instead of rebuking and rejecting false teachers such as Priscilla Shirer, when this is so clearly what Scripture says to do. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. Its very easy to think of Priscilla and think, Whats not to love?. If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. He said he met with the teachers of the studies and told them to go over and compare everything biblically and under his guidance to finish out the study and after that thereally will be no more Priscilla Shirer in our church. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. You are an intelligent woman. They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. Fortunately, those arent your only two choices. Hummm. Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; Well since thats the case, why dont you study and agree with what the Bible says? Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. The MEGA Live Event July 23rd, 2021 Tulips & Honey. I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. Heres just one example of Priscilla preaching to men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps. Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. None. CEB Brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit. :0). Exegesis is taking a passage of Scripture in context, and leading out of it- teaching what the passage means. (Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, "Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us." Mark 5:32 Verse Concepts And He looked around to see the woman who had done this. I have attempted plenty of times to contact people like Priscilla Shirer. Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? Also, and I am not downing what you say, as you obviously have many wonderful people reading your blog, these women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. Romans 16:17-18 tells us were to mark false teachers and avoid them. Parables were a common form of teaching in Judaism ( to lead us to self-examination) (https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx) (oops~ this is a Catholic reference~ how bout this one: You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. #4b believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine and Osteens. Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? Is there some connection between this article on Priscilla Shirer and Israel that Im missing? I am gonna pray for you. Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. (Ive addressed that here in case you might be interested.). It just says dont. Period. Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. THERE WERE Also, there are some great resources here. Elizabeth. Are they guiding and leading a flock (a church)? 1. Mark 7:31-37 Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. She goes beyond what is written in teaching men, in partnering with false teachers, in teaching unbiblical prayer practices, and in using improper hermeneutics. Opening Prayer. Assembly Of God. Maybe Im misunderstanding you, but it sounds like youre saying, Im going to Heaven and thats enough for me. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own helpful in understanding biblically whether or not someone is a false teacher. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. Beth and Priscilla both teach a false Jesus and a false gospel. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. You decide. My previous comment with the links was in answer to questions that you asked. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. Again, when the Bible says not to do something, and a person does it anyway, this is sin. Remember what Hebrews 5:12-14 says: For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. If your ladies need a doctrinally sound Bible study in the future, theyre welcome to use anything under the Bible studies tab at the top of this page. 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