why didn't steve downs get custody
There were many problems with her trial and that matters. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch. The forensic evidence alone is absolutely weak. Even if they say that she did not get involved in rehabilitation programs, she did participate, but obviously did not admit to killing her daughter and injuring the others. Plus according to an expert at trial, her testimony did not match the blood spatter analysis in the car. Do you remember probably about four or five days after The lack of balance and objectivity. Considering that the marks on the lethal bullets did not fit the bullet fingerprinting found in the rifle, this gun switcheroo was a good save for the state, but did not support the theory presented at trial either. http://www.dianedowns.com/Dr.%20Jamison%20affidavit.pdf. Susan, I dont know if there ever was a lawsuit against Ann Rule from the Fredericksons family. Around 1 in 20 residents in Arkansas and Tennessee were missed during the 2020 census, and four other U.S. states had significant undercounts of their populations which could shortchange them Most people negotiate the ups and downs of . The State produced a witness (Ms. Patterson) to testify that Diane Downs entered the hospital bathroom, left the door open, and ran water in the sink (Appendix 87, page 476). I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial parent after the divorce. She managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. One could argue that this blog does not stick to what came out at trial. Leslie Van Houten is an example of a woman who probably will never see the light of day because of her high profile status. Judges are subject to certain ethical standards and have a duty to be impartial. Spending 35 years incarcerated with time in isolation and often as a target is not going to improve mental health. They finally charged her and she did 10 years for the death of her children. The american system often reminds me of what Charles Dickens talked about in his novels. Not exclusively a USA trait, this happens also in many countries, but in a technologically advanced superpower like USA this attitude is more shocking, and maybe also more worldwide spread. Moreover, it was not a suicide case, but of a woman who supposedly shot herself in the arm and her 3 children several times. I watched the highlights of her hearing. They were in a group home and he was getting unsupervised visitation with them. If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago: speculative, Ill stop there. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. I actually do not know what really happened. I think that she has done enough time and should be released. Nothing in this blog claims Diane is innocent. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. I agree in both cases they were high profile cases. Diane asked for proof that her ex husband was behind the shooting. There were good reasons to look at this mother, but the detective admitted on the stand that they stopped looking at anyone else after two weeks and the stranger on the road became a joke. They were treated very badly in this matter. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. She claimed she . I was a patient of the doctor who worked so hard to save her childrens lives that night. This does not make her innocent. Likewise, Charlene had no intention of letting Knick divorce her (Appendix 81, page 1518, line 15). Not hard to go there. Even put in different hospitals. Where is the blood spatter on Diane? Therefore, my understanding is that the original sentence is deemed indefinite with parole hearings every 10 years. In 1979, headstrong Diane gave birth to Danny who was not Stevens biological son because he had no desire to be a father again. Tina, if you look at family pictures of the Downs, Christie is the eldest and this is her picture. ANNE RULES BOOK IS A LIE, ,ALL MADE UP CRAP. But in my opinion, it shows how Diane was disturbed and could also have found a better path in life if given the chance and the right support. Click to read The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? I bet the records are and always have been sealed regarding this aspect of the case. One of the jurors finally declared. She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. Lise lasalle you mention THIS When she (Diane) resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. A steel plate had to be attached and some lead fragments were removed. She has an excellent conduct report and never reacted violently to any of the harassment from other inmates. Its more understandable now, after all this time but it has done her so much harm, then and now Below this letter see links to Salem-News.com articles about the questionable conviction of Diane Downs. All the years in prison probably made her way more disturbed than she ever was. I didnt know that. The strong, emotive language. So she warns her to stay away. Diane clearly would have had to have had her rights terminated by the court. It no longer matters as far as the verdict, she was found guilty, but why no parole? Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. (her family confirmed that she had a mood disorder, possibly bipolar 2), So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis.. Ruger #14-76187; described as the gun used by Diane and belonging to Steve Downs, was not the murder weapon. He is in his 70s now and his photo is not on his linkedin or anywhere I could find. Same with her brother. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial, he tried to retain defense attorney Melvin Belli who had the reputation of fighting for his clients and to win all his cases. I am not one sided. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. Thanks again. I look forward to reading your other blogs. They felt safe there. Yep, Downs who was found guilty in 1984, escaped successfully from the Oregon Womens Correctional Center in 1987 and was transferred to Jersey afterwards. If she did have memories of the actual shooting, that would be very rare. Most people described Dianes injury as minor or superficial but in reality, it was a very serious injury. The fact that she took the kids to the nearest hospital, andtwo of them survived kind offlies in the face of their murder at all costs theory. This same witness corroborated that Diane did not stop to do something suspicious or dispose of the gun. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. Right?? Downs was constantly provoked by inmates because of the nature of her situation, and she never once attacked or defended herself in a violent manner. Inside, outside, top to bottom. On her way to the hospital,she was followed by someone who said she was going slow, but Diane said she was driving fairly fast. What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. And she would have been under supervision. You do not refute any of the points I made in the blogs. How one of them lied on the stand about ballistics? No way. She had been isolated from her whole family and being unethically interrogated. Diane had met all the requirements to be paroled. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. A. I dont recall telling her to get an apartment. Mr. Yet, that is exactly what the videotape showsDiane laughing hysterically about hurting her arm. If the media was anything at the time it was favorable towards her. But as usual, it was slanted in the worst possible way. May be the guy who says he did it. Wow does he ever look different than how they portrayed him in the TV movie. It was one of the most disturbing stories I've watched. I still remember my mother picking up the paper and seeing the headline. She took care of herself not her children. Until the end of the trial. Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. Foote then handled the juvenile docket and first encountered Downs when he ordered her two surviving children into state protective custody. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. I do not care if the bushy haired stranger made no sense or if they could not explain the why of the tragedy, I do not care if she was madly in love with a guy because all that counts is proof and evidence in a court of law, and there was definitely a reasonable doubt. Im sure nothing I write will change that. An earlier commenter wrote that it doesnt matter that the trail or the investigation was faultyWHAT !? And Steven would hunt her down anyway and charm his way back into her life. As you said, the system has to work for everyone and you cant change the rules because a case is high profile without muddying the waters. The flesh and muscle had been cored three days earlier, but the steel plate and bone graft could not be effected for two weeks (a precaution against infection). If I feel that due process was violated, I will go there anyway. It is because she is a high profile person. 1) Gunshot residue/blood splatter. As a rule, any child under the age of ten prompts counsel to question the competence of any testimony that child might give. Downs is a worthless as the day is long.. Maybe you should read the blog before commenting. I am not from USA, never have been there, but my impression is that in USA media are far more powerful than the justice system and rational thinking is crushed by easy emotional moods, stereotypes and a hunger for violence coated in a pompous moral attitude. So it was a relentless game totry to reel her in. By many accounts, her children adored her. The board said that her mental or emotional disorder makes her a danger to society. High profile cases usually do not get the same treatment as regular folks. 2. There have been behaviors that in the general course of events one may expect from a single parent that in a way have been falsely interpreted as being some form of evil.. It was a harrowing, shameful miscarriage of justice. That is pure bullshit. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. Clearly the social workers were working with the DAs office and taking advice on best interest of the children from them. We make them president!!!! It was cited that she keeps her emotions close to the vest. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. What a terrible injustice. Their marriage was described as tumultuous, with Downs allegedly disappearing for long periods of time with her children. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial. The children had a father. I dont disagree, I just think it is another example of flaws in our justice system. Also on old footage of the trial, as there was no cameras aloud, the drawing of Christie Downs from court artist also complies with the testimony given in the book, as far as her pain and crying. I would also like to express my disbelief that the same judge presided over both the child welfare case and the criminal one. It should have been investigated further. View theaffidavits. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. No other shooter involved in her case. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. They should have taken the time necessary to find enough evidence. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. We had a thoughtful jury that examined the evidence over four days. Jump through the States hoops, or find a noose around your neck. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. Due process always matters. Teen Mom 2 alum Jenelle Evans and her mom, Barbara Evans, have been feuding over custody of Jenelle's son, Jace in addition to many other issues for over a decade. Christie NEVER said she didnt know who did it she was just unwilling or afraid to tell on her mother. The innocence project gets so many requests and they have limited resources. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath.. I am a true crime junkie. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. As a result, joint legal custody which means parents share in the decision-making 1 is becoming the default decision in many family court systems. They are still part of their birth family. Ffs maybe u should go back to writing screenplays. Her family supported her. This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. Diane nowhad the title ofdangerous offender. This is a conflict of interest. Evidence from a ballistics expert. 3. I accept that it is sometimes necessary but I believe in rehabilitation. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable. I am glad you read it anyway and I appreciate your comment. If there is one thing Diane knew about her lover, is that he was fickle and did not like trouble of any kind. I like the way you keep an open mind about Diane herself and what she may or may not have been going through mentally. answer the question why didn t steve downs get custody, which will help you get the most accurate answer. Mr. Jagger read the report and said, you were right. Diane Downs was one of the most infamous murderers of the 1980s; the emotionally flat blonde was convicted of shooting her three children, killing one of them, along a roadway in Springfield,. Steve Howey and Sarah Shahi both grew up in the Lone Star state but their romance didn't begin until they were both acting in Los Angeles. Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. The Lifetime channel constantly makes movies based loosely on the truth; this approach is an effective weapon aimed at swaying public opinion about high-profile cases. I am interested in the truth. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. Whether or not Steve Downs was in some way behind the shooting, the man who fired the weapon was a stranger to Diane. We make them president. Movie scene alleging that Christie was scared. I was shocked any asked why she thought that. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. Our laws are not written that way. You can click here to read about the case of Alice Crimmins during which the lead detective was heard telling the other cops before the bodies of the children were ever found:You take the husband, Ill take the bitch.. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? Too bad it triggered you, maybe try to stay away from sites that might not go along with the mob mentality and usual media narrative. Diane followed the detectives to their car. Diane wanted to wait for her daughter to feel better, be accompanied by an expert and have the meetings taped? My website is in the process of being migrated so it has no photos. Diane may very well be guilty, but YIKES this investigation and trial seemed so butchered and tilted in the prosecutions favour. I dont know that it could get worse than writing an asinine comment on a restorative justice website that states that only respectful and constructive comments will be posted. She signed an affidavit to that effect and wanted the jury informed of it but it was never done. Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. statement regarding the effects of the childrens medications while in hospital should acknowledge where the blogger obtained information about the side effects.). It probably makes you feel so good. While not evidence of guilt or innocence, it is certainly worth noting as part of the overall wrongs perpetrated during this fiasco of a trial and subsequent appeals. I was always really bothered by that. I wanted to ask you something on this case. They sure forgot to tell us about her pulse racing during these sessions. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986. He could then have initiated the licensing process to foster and then adopt the children. Its as if they cant control it. In fact, Knick admits Diane took that gold chain as collateral against a $500 LOAN she made to him. As for Diane, give me a break. So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? Why did CK shoot the kids multiple times and DD once? Im glad you continued to look for more information as time went on. After parting ways, the couple would soon meet again in Arizona which would end up in them reigniting and reconnecting their fling. I have no idea whether or not she was guilty of the crime. (Yes in the 1980s a ten yr like myself was not as mature as say todays 10 yr olds. But you told Diane Downs to go ahead and get an apartment? Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom. Some of your facts arent facts at all. Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. I am posting Jamesanswer: Yes the allegations were said and you cannot take back what was saideven if retracted Weve become friends. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. That poor girl. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. How ironic that the court and cops were so quick to believe Steve Downs, but he gave up on his own children after the tragedy. A prosecutor inventing a new psychiatric category in court and labeling the accused is kind of unsettling. Its too late for me to call myself a murderer (when I am not) just to purchase my freedom. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. Diane did not get a fair trial. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. BUT like you rightly explain, there was no real evidence of her guilt. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court. She was harshly judged because of her demeanor. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation. The kids were shorted-changed. In 1992 I became involved in this work following my interest and research into a notorious murder trial that was held in Oregon many years ago. The police DID fingerprint the car, from grill to trunk and in between. The cops admitted that they never investigated the tips about a bushy haired stranger. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. Her mom is still alive and would love to have contact but respect that they wont. The fact that the children were in no way protected by Child Protection Services is undeniable. Danny was the product of an affair. The way Christie was coached did not correspond to the reality of the direct evidence. The trial was a whole miscarriage, that seems undeniable. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. Substituting reasonable inference and evidence for tarot cards? It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. Did you read her statements to the parole board in 2008? Most get through it fine, maybe some complications or pain, maybe even some post pardum. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Diane was known for her love of all animals whichshe treated with great care, and for her independent and wild streak. There were a few calls and on one occasion,Christie said They just, they knew that, you know, that she did it and I should say that she did it. When asked if she thought her mother did it or someone else did it, she replied, I dont know if she did it or someone else did, cause I dont know. Then Angel says: They told you that was the right thing to do, huh? Christie responds, But like the person, my attorney, and thats who Fred is, that Im living with, hes the guy, he works for me.. Brewer changed his mind. I am a firm believer of where there is smoke there is fire. I am publishing your comment because once in a while, I need to post the pitiful representation of true crime readers who made Anne Rule a rich author. Danny downs did indeed say a man shot him he also blamed a cartoon character. It opened a huge can of worms regarding the real identity of the heart full of lies in this case. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial: speculation I do not have to put any statement advising people that I am about to present the neglected aspects of the trial. They examined her clothes also. That they did not test the outside of the car? (Yes, speculative). The case was so one sided that it is about time some of us bring up the other side. You simply are a rude individual looking for a reaction. 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